Linode Forum

[Gorn]

Hi All,

Has anyone setup cPanel on their Linode and, if so, do they have any advice for a smooth install?

Thanks!

[Gorn]

Hmm... apparently not many Linoders using cPanel? Maybe a good reason for that. I have some clients who are accustomed to it. I've noticed that installation problems seem to be plentiful at other unmanaged VPS hosts, but maybe it is due to lack of experience. I was wondering if the install (and updates) might push the boundaries of the allocated RAM (say 512 MB)?

[waldo]

Did you try searching? I know from reading posts people have setup cPanel, Webmin, ISPConfig, etc

You don't mention which Linode plan you are on. I've never installed cPanel or anything like it before, but from reading here and knowing what those things do, I can only assume it would eat considerable resources on the smaller plans.

I did find this old post
http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8856#8856

[Gorn]

Hi Waldo,

Thanks for your reply. I did some searches, but didn't find the particular post you did. I was thinking of installing it on a Linode 540, but it appears that might not be practical. I'm not married to cPanel, however some of my clients are. I have about 30 sites to host, but most of them are static and low-traffic. I may try it in the next tier up.

[waldo]

Or maybe depending on how much the clients are paying, get each on their on 360 ;) , though availability is pretty low at this point in time:
http://www.linode.com/avail.cfm

What do they need/want cPanel or anything like that for? Perhaps you can find other alternatives.

email - use Google

DNS (sub-domains, etc), if each had their own Linode, they could take care of that it in the Linode manager. I think you could use Linode's API to do pretty much anything you need there so you wouldn't need to give them access to the LM.

File manager? There are others out there you could set them up with.

One-click installs of software? Screw that. Nobody keeps that stuff up to date. Instruct/guide your clients on manually installing WordpPress, Drupal, etc.

Just a couple of examples.

You could (I think) get a separate Linode and setup cPanel or some other control panel on a dedicated node. So those resource pigs aren't consuming the money maker box ;)

Looks like cPanel has a VPS version, but it still appears pretty dang hungry:
http://www.cpanel.net/products/cpanelwhm/system-requirements.html

Seems to me cPanel has only had their programmers work on polishing the front end interface and can't figure out how to code the back end for efficiency. Yes, it does a lot, but I don't understand why it needs so many resources. In my mind it should really be a polished front end to some scripts that do work. It should be pretty dang light weight.

http://www.cpanel.net/products/cpanelwhm/vps-optimized.html

Lots of options though. I've used hosts that use cPanel and those that have home-grown solutions. I've always preferred the home-grown solutions over cPanel as an end-user.

[MarkJ]

I have a VPS running CPanel. However this isn't with linode as it's a geographically local host for a few local (Australian) domains.

That'll change when linode get their Australian data center up and running (obviously bandwidth limits will be much lower than US, but still..) ;-)

The following is with a hardened Centos setup with the latest CPanel. It's only running two light traffic domains at the moment, having gone live only last week.

mark@controlpanel [~]# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 768508 734540 33968 0 44616 426440
-/+ buffers/cache: 263484 505024
Swap: 2031608 68 2031540

[MegaBurn]

I can't say for Linode but I've had no problems with cPanel/WHM on a VPS in the past. Right now I have a Linode 360 with Webmin plus Virtualmin (GPL) and Usermin, works well. Its not the control panel that matters, just what you run on it.

[remailednet]

A little late, but I am running CPanel on a 1080 with CentOS 5.3. We host roughly 50 low volume domains on it.

You could probably get away with a 720. No real issues to speak of.

I really thought my biggest concern would be disk space, but even that is going just fine.

I did install ASSP Deluxe, that keeps the cpu up a little since there is a decent amount of email coming through. But overall no issues.

[gnummep-martin]

I currently run a 540 with cPanel, for about a month now, and it hasn't even used it's swap space once. It's extremely easy to install and works just fine.

I would recommend using the ConfigServer Firewall. It's free and saves you a lot of working securing your VPS.

[fos]

I ran cPanel on a colo4jax vps with similar specifications to the 540 Linode. It ran without any problems.

There is a VPS optimized cPanel available. It is more efficient and has a lower cost as well.

Jeff

[Rahul]

n00b question: Is cPanel different from Linode manager?

[pclissold]

Rahul wrote: n00b question: Is cPanel different from Linode manager?
Yes. Look here.

[Rahul]

Thanks for the reply. So cpanel and linode manager are two different programs that essentially do the same job? I also wanted to know, does linode completely manage server administration? I have no idea about server administration but want to host my website here. Would linode qualify as "managed server"

Thank you!

R

[quote="pclissold"][quote="Rahul"]n00b question: Is cPanel different from Linode manager?[/quote]
Yes. Look [url=http://www.cpanel.net/]here[/url].[/quote]

[hoopycat]

They do two different jobs -- the Linode Platform Manager allows you to control the system itself (the environment in which your kernel is running, basically), while cPanel is used to manage things running inside your system (web hosting, e-mail, etc).

And no, Linode is an unmanaged service; you have the freedom and the responsibility to build and maintain your own system.

[Rahul]

Thanks - hoopycat. So, I guess cPanel makes it a bit easier. What is the cost of running and installing cPanel? And can web hosting, email, etc. be run without cPanel?

Thanks again -

R :D