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Piki
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: Upgrading phpBB |
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One thing that seems a bit odd to me is that the Linode forum is using a severely outdated phpBB. phpBB 3.x has been out for awhile now, and 2.x isn't being maintained. phpBB 3.x has a clone of the subsilver theme that Linode. I forget what it's called, but IMO much better than phpBB 3.x's default, and it can be set to the forum default.
It just seems odd that we are always told that the latest stable will have the latest security updates, and on a forum running outdated software no less. I don't know what plugins are being used, but I'm sure they've been updated (or an equivalent created) for phpBB 3.x by now, and there is (should hopefully still be) a converter to convert the existing forum content. It doesn't have to be switched right away, a testing phase can be done to make sure it goes smoothly, but a well-maintained software is better than a severely outdated one. |
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Brian Puccio
Joined: 17 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| See also http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7364 |
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Piki
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| If they do have reason to stay with the older version, I'd like to know what it is. If they're providing security updates themselves, that's fine by me, and I have no problem with that. It just seems strange that everybody says "use the latest stable to make sure you have all the security updates" and yet we're not at the latest stable for the forum. Putting out the latest release in 2008 provides three years to find new security holes :) |
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Internat
Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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If it aint broke, dont fix it?
Im sure the linode team review the security issues and fix where appropriate. |
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Piki
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| I know it's not broke. It's more a matter of if security updates are being applied. |
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pclissold
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
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Location: Netherlands
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Internat wrote: If it aint broke, dont fix it?
The 'Memberlist' section _is_ broken. |
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Piki
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Memberlist works fine here. |
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pclissold
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Piki wrote: Memberlist works fine here.
Try sorting it. |
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Piki
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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pclissold wrote: Try sorting it.
Broken :-) |
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TygerTyger
Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Internat wrote: If it aint broke, dont fix it?
Even if the forum is built like a tank, it looks *ridiculous*. It's like having an IT consultant show up with Windows 98 on their laptop. People are going to draw their own conclusions. |
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Piki
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:52 am Post subject: |
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TygerTyger wrote: Even if the forum is built like a tank, it looks *ridiculous*. It's like having an IT consultant show up with Windows 98 on their laptop. People are going to draw their own conclusions.
If an IT consult were to show up with any version of Windows, my conclusion would be that he isn't a real IT consultant because Windows isn't a real OS.
Personally, I'm not concerned with the appearance of the forum. I like this theme better than the default in phpBB 3. If they were to upgrade to phpBB 3, I'd request that they switch the default to this one (I think the phpBB 3 version is called prosilver or something similiar, it looks like a more sleek version of the phpBB 2 subsilver theme, but it's still the basic theme).
I'm more concerned with security updates. If we could at least get Linode staff to comment either, "We're providing security updates for the forum" or "We're preparing to upgrade", that'll calm my nerves :-) |
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vonskippy
Joined: 27 Dec 2009
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Location: Colorado, USA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Piki wrote: I'm more concerned with security updates.
Yes it would be tragic beyond compare if this highly classified forum full of gossip, bitching, pie-in-the-sky wishing, crying wolf, and the occasional tech solution was hacked.
Plus, imagine the disappoint if it did get hacked and Linode had to fall back to the latest snapshot, we'd all lose our precious post counts.
OH MY GOD |
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mnordhoff
Joined: 03 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I like how we can abandon our security principles when not doing so could be construed as an insult on Linode. |
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Piki
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll pretend that I'm not being insulted here just because I believe in safe security practices... |
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Azathoth
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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vonskippy wrote:
Plus, imagine the disappoint if it did get hacked and Linode had to fall back to the latest snapshot, we'd all lose our precious post counts.
I am willing to bet that some users use the same username/password combination both for forums and the Manager. :twisted: |
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