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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:47 pm 
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I recently moved to Linode from my previous host. I'm still getting my site up and running, but I want to get my email working sooner. I snagged a custom domain email when Microsoft were giving them away last year and set things up on my then-host, and all was well. Before shuttering the old host account, I made record of two TXT and one MX settings pertaining to the Outlook connection. I copied said settings into my Linode DNS late 4/18, and have received no email on the Outlook account since.

The domain is grantpalin.com

Investigation on the web has yielded a confusing mess, ranging from needing to migrate to Office 365 to self-hosting mail to not making any MX changes. Gah. I like Outlook and would like to keep that setup if possible. I've also searched the Linode library and found details pertaining to Google Apps, as well as setting up email server, neither of which I'm sure I need.

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Domain is registered at Gandi
Email account at Outlook.com
1GB Linode

Linode is set up with LAMP stack, some tools, keyed SSH. Nothing done by me related to email other than DNS settings.

EDIT: it seems I can send email from the account in question, and receive at another address fine. This account just doesn't receive email for some reason.


Last edited by grantpalin on Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:41 pm 
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What's your domain name?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:06 pm 
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obs wrote:
What's your domain name?

See edited OP.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:43 pm 
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You have no MX records defined.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:57 pm 
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sweh wrote:
You have no MX records defined.

The MX setting is there:
http://imgur.com/YuJhE0G


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:51 pm 
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Cached values from a lookup I did 2 hours ago:
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% nslookup -type=mx grantpalin.com
Server:         10.0.0.134
Address:        10.0.0.134#53

Non-authoritative answer:
*** Can't find grantpalin.com: No answer

Authoritative answers can be found from:
grantpalin.com
        origin = ns1.linode.com
        mail addr = grant.grantpalin.com
        serial = 2015042066
        refresh = 14400
        retry = 14400 
        expire = 1209600
        minimum = 86400


I note that asking ns1.linode.com directly gives me a single MX and a higher SOA. So that makes me thing you made a change recently.

If you have recently made the change then you need to wait for it to propagate across the net, perhaps up to 24 hours.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:55 pm 
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You need to set █████████████ then be sure to add ██████ to your ██████████████ file.

Geesh, why do you ask for help then obfuscate any useful info.

Your MX record is wrong. You have your MX pointing to grantpalin.com and it needs to be pointing to mail.grantpalin.com

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:56 pm 
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vonskippy wrote:
Your MX record is wrong. You have your MX pointing to grantpalin.com and it needs to be pointing to mail.grantpalin.com

FWIW
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% nslookup -type=mx grantpalin.com ns1.linode.com 
Server:         ns1.linode.com
Address:        69.93.127.10#53

grantpalin.com  mail exchanger = 10 d2ae00725c970b4230588891c2f504.pamx1.hotmail.com.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:04 pm 
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Hmmm.

He also has a MAIL.GRANTPALIN.COM A record.

So is he trying to get OUTLOOK.COM to host his email, or is he moving it to his Linode setup?

Outlook.com no longer allows custom domains, and only grandfathers the existing users for domains that were setup before yet another provider says they will host your domain email for free and then screws you over.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:09 pm 
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That was all addressed in the first entry (he had this domain with outlook.com and has migrated to linode but wants to keep mail at outlook.com). Without further analysis (eg error reports from sending machines) I think the issue was a lack of MX record (as per my test 2 hours ago), so it should just be a case of waiting for propagation.

If the problem still exists in 24 hours time then more data may be needed! A full error report, for example...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:39 pm 
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About 2 hours ago I went into the DNS settings and re-submitted the TXT and MX settings - just pasted in the values I had recorded in a text file. A short while after that, I opened the email account to find numerous messages waiting for me. Not sure what happened, but supposing that either the initial settings took close to two days to catch up, or the more recent submission kicked something loose. In any case the account is sending and receiving again.

FWIW the A records were pre-populated when I created the Linode, I just left them alone.

Thanks for the help.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:55 pm 
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Since I'd never looked up that domain before, the values I pulled in were "live" values.

So either you didn't save the values properly first time or the Linode backend code didn't build the domain properly.

Either way I now see the MX and TXT records.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:09 am 
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You guess is as good as mine. I can't tell whether it was my re-submit that made a difference, but the email started flowing a while after that, so I may have had something incorrect the first time. Just as well that I tried it before we spent more time chasing down the issue.

Thanks again.


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