Hi,

I have noticed that GeoIP lookups on Linode's London IPs are giving either no result or "US" (presumably based on the "whois"). I guess that will be mainly due to old GeoIP databases (the 109/8 block was only allocated by IANA earlier this year), but it also appears that RIPE is listing Linode's IPs as just "EU" rather than specifically "GB".

ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/stats/delegated-ripencc-latest

I was wondering whose responsibility it is to update that?

That would be the responsibility of whoever maintains the GeoIP database you're using; they generally don't directly use IP allocation data, as it's very often wrong (in fact, that's why there's third-party databases in the first place). So, contact whoever produces your database and let them know.

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That grammatical rule is only in effect on days of the week that have the letter "R" in their name.

James

I have a head cold, so I deployed the snooty voice. It sounds particularly humorous right now, but I will revise accordingly. -rt

pfft. I refuse to be grammatically accurate on a weekend...

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was actually referring to the RIPE info. How does one go about getting that updated? Changing the whois "country:" field from "US" to "GB" may also help. I gather that those 2 bits of information are what GeoIP databases generally use, and it is surely better to fix things at the source rather than patching individual databases/scripts.

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This week is "next week"... maybe at the end of the week though.

That's great.

Was there any mention of the RIPE info too?

Nope.

All I know is; they've contacted the appropriate people, and also contacted the BBC, awaiting response.

The BBC? Is that because they are currently blocking access to UK-only content?

To clarify, my main concern is email. I'm considering moving a mail server from another UK provider to a London Linode, but I'm concerned that there may be servers somewhere (eg. with filters based on old/inaccurate info) that would have problems with it due to the relative newness of the IP block. Does anyone else have experience of running a mail server on a new IP block, and did they experience any problems?

I'm not sure the BBC would unblock the addresses anyway. As I understand it, they're only meant to serve content to residential IP addresses; server farms etc are meant to be blocked (license fee issues).

If London linode IP addresses can access Beeb content then there might be a lot of proxy servers running there

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Stephen
(Linux user since kernel version 0.11)

IMHO, you're probably safer from an e-mail perspective with a new IP address block rather than an old IP block. Older addresses may have been used for many different purposes more recently and made it on to a few of the mail block lists while new addresses are not as likely to be on existing lists.

WHOIS information on IPv4 allocations is not arbitrarily changeable to this level; RIPE verified who we were upon our request. Also, we're not going to lie in our WHOIS and claim to be a British company.

You don't go about getting it updated -- we own the IP space. :)

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RIPE might feel a bit differently about that, especially when it comes time to renew...