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 Post subject: Linode vs Fivebean...
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:18 am 
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As title,
I love linode so there is no really reason to switch to fivebean but it seems that fivebean offer apparently more for less.

I also founded some synthetic bench on the net (for what it worth) and it seems that fivebean is greater than linode.

Is there someone who tryed a fivebean VPS?
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... utput=html[/u]


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:46 am 
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As my Dad always told me, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I'm good with Linode.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:51 am 
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What exactly do you expect to gain by asking Linode customers if they used company-x? Shouldn't you go to company-x's forums and ask them? Or better yet, try it for yourself? If you want to use a competitor, then please do, but I'd appreciate you not trolling the forums with this kind of stuff. Especially after asking the same thing on a 7-month old WHT post.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:08 pm 
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OpenVZ (shared kernel), 'burstable' memory, only one location, bare bones control panel and overselling = a big NoNo. Did you not read the post by Guzpaz in the WHT thread where you also asked this question? There really is no such thing as a free lunch so if you switch to Fivebean, you'll get what you pay for.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:21 pm 
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caker wrote:
What exactly do you expect to gain by asking Linode customers if they used company-x? Shouldn't you go to company-x's forums and ask them? Or better yet, try it for yourself? If you want to use a competitor, then please do, but I'd appreciate you not trolling the forums with this kind of stuff. Especially after asking the same thing on a 7-month old WHT post.

Thanks,
-Chris


Hi Chris, I'm really sad to hear that from you.
I always loved your service and tryed to spread the word about you as much as I can so I really don't want to troll.
This is what I wrote some times ago on your forum:
https://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4332

Yesterday I wrote on the blog:
"I hope that your company will grow up as much as you worth.
Thanks guys, your are the #1."

Generally a forum is a place where to discuss and the discussion I opened seems reasonable to me.
I haven't understood your behaviour, if you don't like discussion like that on your forum you should tell us:
"Talking about competitor isn't allowed here".

Regarding the WHT thread I haven't said nothing bad about you, I simply advertised that you have increased the RAM and that now you are more competitive than before.
I learned that it is not important if you talk bad or good about a company, the most important thing is that someone talks about that company.

Said that I'm really offended from you and I'm sad to read that since my intention wasn't to troll but to find another 100 reason to stay with you.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:23 pm 
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pclissold wrote:
OpenVZ (shared kernel), 'burstable' memory, only one location, bare bones control panel and overselling = a big NoNo. Did you not read the post by Guzpaz in the WHT thread where you also asked this question? There really is no such thing as a free lunch so if you switch to Fivebean, you'll get what you pay for.


This is the answer that I was searching for... :(


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:24 pm 
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It does, indeed, look like OpenVZ. Generally speaking, if you see "Burstable Memory" on the spec list, it's OpenVZ. There is some debate(*) about whether OpenVZ containers are actually VPSes at all, since you're rather limited in what you can do and the resources are generally oversubscribed.

From my quick reading of the list, I believe they're the only OpenVZ-based provider on that spreadsheet, and the benchmarks appear to be heavily slanted towards PHP-related tasks. So, they might not be too applicable to my personal situation.

(*) If there isn't, buy me a couple beers and I'll start some debate.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:29 pm 
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caker wrote:
What exactly do you expect to gain by asking Linode customers if they used company-x?


You severely underestimate this community's reputation for picking apart competing technology. :-)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:50 pm 
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hoopycat wrote:
It does, indeed, look like OpenVZ.


It is, from their website:


Our unmanaged VPS servers utilize open-source technology called OpenVZ, this technology combined with MoxieVM allows our customers full root control and management of their VPS server.


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The link to the spreadsheet in the first post is malformed; to view it, you'll need to remove the trailing [/u]. I only gave it a skim, but one thing worth noting is that they're testing a Linode 360, which is now non-existent. The bump to 512M would surely effect better performance.


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hoopycat wrote:
… There is some debate(*) about whether OpenVZ containers are actually VPSes at all …

I don't think there's that much debate. Shared kernel = not a VPS; it's virtual, but it sure isn't private -- if some other user panics the kernel, your 'machine' goes down as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:28 am 
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I love caker (and Linode.. I guess). And I'm making t-shirts to prove it. I'm thinking something like...

"Linode: Love it, or leave it."
"Linode: We're better than you!"
"Linode: Learn2English before you post on the forums"
"Linode: Think hard about what you type before you post it".

The third and fourth ones may be too long. It's a work in progress.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:21 am 
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caker wrote:
What exactly do you expect to gain by asking Linode customers if they used company-x? Shouldn't you go to company-x's forums and ask them? Or better yet, try it for yourself? If you want to use a competitor, then please do, but I'd appreciate you not trolling the forums with this kind of stuff. Especially after asking the same thing on a 7-month old WHT post.

Thanks,
-Chris


Hi Chris, I'm really sad to hear that from you.
I always loved your service and tryed to spread the word
...
Said that I'm really offended from you and I'm sad to read that since my intention wasn't to troll but to find another 100 reason to stay with you.


See ya, don't let the door slam you in the butt on the way out.


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Whoa, for a second I thought I tuned into the Apple forum by mistake.

Everyone just take a breath.

Opinions/Questions/Comments of all types should be allowed - that's what civilized people do, they TALK about things, all things.

As to discussing Linode's competition, hiding your head in the sand won't make the competition go away, so why not get things out in the air?

Better to know exactly what your clients are thinking about your competition, and have a chance to discuss it (refute it, laugh at it, worry about it, etc) then to just assume all your clients are happy and satisfied.

Free market research should never be sneered at, nor should any customer - on the fence or otherwise.

So float those opinions so we can all discuss them (agree or disagree) - just don't make it personal (you dumbasses).


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Not that anybody asked, but maybe this is a slightly different take on the response. It's the difference between walking in to an Apple store and telling the genius you believe Microsoft is superior vs asking the genius why you should choose Apple over Microsoft. Maybe its a difference in nuance with language, or maybe not, considering the other thread here recently.

Speaking of Apple, if this were the Apple forums, wouldn't this thread have already been locked? ;)


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