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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:14 am 
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Serial Cookie wrote:
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'Woman holding fish' wasn't even relevant to the conversation


What... so asian girl screaming at donkey or Y U No guy is relevant?


Yes because they are both analogies.

'Asian girl screaming at donkey' can be interpreted as meaning internet arguments are like screaming at a donkey. You put in effort and energy but the donkey doesn't understand and isn't listening. It's a waste of energy.

'Y U NO guy' conveys frustration and perceived non-cooperation of some person, group, or thing.


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"starting"? :?


Yes, I have high ridiculometer threshold.


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sednet wrote:
Being an IT Professional does not mean being a tie wearing type with no sense of humor.


You're correct and that's not really what I meant. My remark was related to the "meta-trolling" that you mentioned here before, to the overall (d|r)evolution of this thread:

1. Serious inquiries
2. Responses to those
3. Discussion on purpose thereof and completeness of Linode's information
4. Flames ensue, fingerpointing, namecalling
5. Hilarity ensues

(TBA:)

6. ???
7. Profit


sednet wrote:
'Woman holding fish' wasn't even relevant to the conversation.


There's fish in that pic? Where? :mrgreen: http://youtu.be/ona-RhLfRfc

In light of that my points went to the pic of choice, I cba to discuss what else vonskippy did or didn't do in this thread. Maybe because over the years I grew forum-flame-retardant-skin so thick that I don't care. Maybe that's a positive thing, maybe it isn't.


(edit: sp)


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Azathoth wrote:
... the overall (d|r)evolution of this thread:

1. Serious inquiries
2. Responses to those
3. Discussion on purpose thereof and completeness of Linode's information
...

Glancing at the first page, you're right. This was a legitimate thread at the beginning. I hadn't remembered. That's a shame.

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sednet wrote:
'Woman holding fish' wasn't even relevant to the conversation.


You're right, but by golly I enjoyed it :)


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Sednet, I must have missed the memo, so my apologies for being late.

Congratulations on being promoted to opinion master here at Linode.

With your knowledge, expertise, and of course the only correct opinion we all will prosper with your benevolent guidance.

Thanks for setting me right on the IPv6 debacle, obviously it should have been implement years before Linode got off their asses and put it in place. All that missed IPv6 traffic - it really is a shame (think of the IPv6 children).

And yes, you're oh so right, I'm a huge supporter of Linode. In fact Caker keeps begging me to put my Linode Staff tag (i.e. Linode Cheerleader) on my Forum account. You certainly played a "Columbo" on my meager attempt to stay in stealth mode.

And if I was an IT Professional, I would indeed be ashamed at helping make this thread jump the shark. My sincere apologies and I'll be sure to bring this valid point up at the next ASBMB meeting so that my actual profession can benefit from this threads collective wisdom.

As to the "girl with a fish", how stupid for me thinking that people with at least 4 brain cells would be able to draw the line between the "trolling" comments and a girl holding a fish on a boat with a fishing pole. Thanks again for getting your one-and-only-opinion-that-counts posted so that the rest of us could wrap our tiny little minds around it.

You sir are a champ, and if it doesn't sound too sappy, my hero.

So cheers to you SEDNET, you're a breath of leadership and guidance in a topsy-turvy forum.


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vonskippy wrote:
Sednet, I must have missed the memo, so my apologies for being late.


There wasn't a memo and there is no need to apologize.

Please do try to contribute though, instead of just trying to derail every conversation that is a even a tiny bit critical of Linode.


Back on topic: Linode, this could carry on for a very long time if you don't simply tell us what was hacked and how. We understand that you don't have perfect security and we understand that human error is always possible. We don't actually expect you to be perfect 100% of the time and we would rather you were honest with us.


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I'd like to note that the donkey is also screaming at the girl.


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hoopycat wrote:
I'd like to note that the donkey is also screaming at the girl.


Maybe that can become a new version of the meme, Screamer Part 2: Donkey Revenge


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sednet wrote:
Back on topic: Linode, this could carry on for a very long time if you don't simply tell us what was hacked and how.


I think it's pretty clear you're not going to get this information.

Repetition doesn't bolster your arguments.


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Maybe we can all head over to this new "Bitcoin computer is hax0red" article and ask for their detailed investigation?


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ericholtman wrote:
Maybe we can all head over to this new "Bitcoin computer is hax0red" article and ask for their detailed investigation?


It appears bitcoinica got robbed by their own hand. The attack appears to have been SQL injection or some other form of unvalidated user input. It doesn't appear to be due to their own provider giving away their front door keys as happened with the Linode incident.


If I screw up my site and people rob me it's my fault.

If I setup my site perfectly and people rob me by using the providers tools that were not appropriately secured that's the providers fault.

EDIT:
'The root cause of this problem is an email server compromise. The email server belongs to one of our team members.'

It seems they put a root or equivalent password in email and the email server got cracked.

EDIT2:
It seems bitcoinica were hosted on rackspace when this recent hack happened.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:36 am 
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ericholtman wrote:
Maybe we can all head over to this new "Bitcoin computer is hax0red" article and ask for their detailed investigation?


Your wish is granted by the way.

http://www.bitcoinica.com/


Although Linode had no part of this recent hack bincoinica aimed this volley at Linode for the last one: ' In the past, Bitcoinica has been victim to the poor security practices of an irresponsible hosting provider.'

So Linode won't communicate what happened clearly. Zhou Tong of Bitcoinica did. Did I mention that he is a 17 year old kid from Singapore?

Linode - do the right thing and tell us what happened. Or just tell me and I'll shut up about it.


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sednet wrote:

Now THAT is how you respond after an incident.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:01 am 
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sednet wrote:
So Linode won't communicate what happened clearly. Zhou Tong of Bitcoinica did. Did I mention that he is a 17 year old kid from Singapore?


I fail to see how Zhou Tong said any more than Linode did.


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