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sednet
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:17 pm 
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My 512 is perfect for my usage. If you want / need more resources, upgrade.

And I believe the current 512 *was* a 256 at one point. If not that, it was a 360 once.


I want more for less money. There is a recession on you know.


I think the lowest end offering was an 80 running on UML not XEN some years back. A few people on here will remember running mailservers, spam filters, DNS servers, web servers, php, databases, and other things all in under 80 meg of ram. We were also limited by IO tokens so your disk speed went really slow if you swapped too much, or even just unpacked a big tarball. It was a nice challenge tuning all the stuff to work within those limits.

Right now I'd rather have half the capacity and half the price for some applications. I manage one machine that just runs BIND and tests connectivity to a few other IPs about once an hour. That would run very easily on 128Meg ram.
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512 was 64 once. That was the starting point.
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sednet wrote:
Mostly I'm trying to hassle Caker for more stuff.

Yes lets all be greedy bastards and see if we can't make Linode meet our cheap ass demands so that they too can be driven out of business.

Geesh people, if $20/month is too expensive, find a new hobby.

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sednet wrote:
Mostly I'm trying to hassle Caker for more stuff.

Yes lets all be greedy bastards and see if we can't make Linode meet our cheap ass demands so that they too can be driven out of business.

Geesh people, if $20/month is too expensive, find a new hobby.


You don't know how many of those $20/month machines I manage. I don't just manage my own machines.

I negotiate with suppliers for a better deal as does anyone who isn't just burning money for a hobby. Only a fool tells a supplier that their price is OK or what they get for that price is enough.
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For reference (and memories for those who have been around that long): http://web.archive.org/web/200307111716 ... inodes.cfm
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sednet wrote:
Only a fool tells a supplier that their price is OK or what they get for that price is enough.

Every time you pay your bill you are telling your supplier exactly that. Linode has chosen a market position that doesn't attempt to compete on price with lower-cost providers, and the fact that you continue to manage a multitude of linodes indicates that in the big picture you don't really want them to become more like those lower-cost options.
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Stever wrote:
sednet wrote:
Only a fool tells a supplier that their price is OK or what they get for that price is enough.

Every time you pay your bill you are telling your supplier exactly that. Linode has chosen a market position that doesn't attempt to compete on price with lower-cost providers, and the fact that you continue to manage a multitude of linodes indicates that in the big picture you don't really want them to become more like those lower-cost options.


Linode does compete on price on the low end stuff very nicely. However, there is always room for improvement. The IT world keeps offering bigger and faster for less money. If Caker actually listened to the fanboys on here nothing would ever improve because it's already perfect, Linode would stagnate and die. That's not what has happened. Instead Linode grew from a tiny little company to a huge one because it kept offering more and more. As a customer this should be encouraged.

Paying a bill doesn't mean you are entirely happy. It doesn't mean you would not jump ship as soon as a better offer comes along. It doesn't mean you should not gently pressure your supplier to give you more.
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Guspaz
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Linodes are available for $16.96 per month if you prepay in advance. If you have a large number of linodes, and they come-and-go, you can still pre-pay for your minimum number and re-use the existing linodes as required.

If you're ordering a very large number of linodes, they may be willing to negotiate a volume discount. I've no idea if they do such a thing, but if you've got hundreds of linodes, you probably represent a big enough customer to negotiate that sort of thing.
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Guspaz
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The rate of whining about a cheaper linode pricepoint is too damn high.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:10 pm 
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I just got this gem today:

Digital Ocean Support wrote:
During the above maintenance window we will be doing work on our network in New York. We will need to reconfigure our network settings which may cause a brief network outage.

Our maintenance window may affect your servers: '[redacted]'

Maintenance Window Start Time: Tuesday January 22nd 22:00 EST
Maintenance Window End Time: Tuesday January 22nd 24:00 EST
Maintenance Window Duration: The reboot should not take longer than 15 minutes.

Impact: There will be a loss of connectivity as the core routers reboot.
Reason: Onsite engineers will reboot the core routers as part of a planned maintenance.

Resolution: We will be monitoring all servers & services closely, if you experience any interruption longer than 15 minutes please contact us to investigate further.


https://www.digitalocean.com/support


I wasn't aware that 10 hours notice for 15min downtime was acceptable. They have onsite engineers rebooting core routers as part of planned maintenance?
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Guspaz
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I wasn't aware that changing network settings required rebooting enterprise-grade routers.
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I wasn't aware that changing network settings required rebooting enterprise-grade routers.


Apparently they need time to polish their plugs.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:53 pm 
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derfy wrote:
My 512 is perfect for my usage. If you want / need more resources, upgrade.

And I believe the current 512 *was* a 256 at one point. If not that, it was a 360 once.

It was a 64...

From my yearly billing email...
Code:
Linode 64 & 1.5 GB Disk FREE  05/01/2004 - 04/30/2005    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 64 & 1.5 GB Disk FREE  05/01/2005 - 04/30/2006    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 80 & 1.5 GB Disk FREE  05/01/2006 - 04/30/2007    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 256 & 4 GB Disk FREE   05/01/2007 - 04/30/2008    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 360 & 5 GB Disk FREE      05/01/2008 - 04/30/2009    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 360 & 8 GB Disk FRE05/01/2009 - 04/30/2010    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 360 & 8 GB Disk FRE05/01/2010 - 04/30/2011    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 512 & 8 GB Disk FRE05/01/2011 - 04/30/2012    $0.00  $239.40
Linode 512 & 10 GB Disk FR05/01/2012 - 04/30/2013    $0.00  $239.40

I'm gonna guess this year will also show as "512 & 10 GB Disk FR" because the extra disk space this year didn't propagate into grandfathered allowances.

You can tell my system was originally designed for a 64Mb machine...
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             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:           496        442         53          0          9        369
-/+ buffers/cache:         63        433
Swap:          256          6        250

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