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 Post subject: Re: BitCoin Discussion
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:11 am 
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 Post subject: Re: BitCoin Discussion
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:59 pm 
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zunzun wrote:
chesty wrote:
since bitcoins can be anonymous, hard to trace, easily washed, and can be exchanged worldwide, i doubt the criminals will care about some law in the USA.


My understanding is that the new rules only apply for entities that convert bitcoins to "hard currency". If you and I trade only in bitcoins it is not regulated I think... Can anyone verify this? Anyway, neither Wal-Mart nor the local electric power company accept bitcoins, so neither do I - just curious though.

James


I can't answer your question for sure but I suspect these are just the same $10k reporting rules that every bank already follows. If you deposited $10k cash at your bank that you obtained legally you would be reported and may be investigated. If you are a normal guy you would likely never know about it.

These regulations are only to stop money laundering, tax avoidance, and serious criminal use. They are not meant to stop people conducting legal trade.


BTW You can get prepaid credit cards for bitcoins that you can use in Wal-Mart. The cards themselves are actually denominated in USD and it's converted when you add credit.


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 Post subject: Re: BitCoin Discussion
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:22 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:30 pm 
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Feds reveal the search warrant used to seize Mt. Gox account

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In the warrant, a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), states that there's probable cause to believe Mt. Gox is engaging in "money transmitting" without a license, a crime punishable by a fine or up to five years in prison.


Well that sucks.


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 Post subject: Re: BitCoin Discussion
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:55 pm 
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A conviction would be prima facie evidence that bitcoin is a legitimate currency. If you can't exchange it without being considered a money services business under Federal law, then it stands to reason that it is a currency.

It is worth noting that Dwolla's ToS pretty much prohibits anything even remotely Mt. Gox without express written consent, so either Mt. Gox was flying under their radar (hahaaaahahahahaa), or they're going to be wishing for asbestos underpants before the week is done.

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 Post subject: Re: BitCoin Discussion
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:51 pm 
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No, this is completely (kinda) unrelated to bitcoin all together.

It was seized because they are transmitting USD without a proper license.


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