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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:47 pm 
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It will certainly offer a strong incentive to existing customers not to convert their accounts, anyway.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:59 pm 
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It will certainly offer a strong incentive to existing customers not to convert their accounts, anyway.


+1, seconded, ditto.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:01 pm 
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D'oh! I missed this post. Seems as though all is well in "Linode land" for now.

caker wrote:
citricsquid wrote:
Will this become the default for all accounts once out of beta, or will it be an option alongside monthly billing?

It will become the default for new customers. Existing customers won't be forced to change (but they'll be able to on their own).

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:16 pm 
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Guspaz wrote:
It will certainly offer a strong incentive to existing customers not to convert their accounts, anyway.


Indeed I'm due for a 2 yearly renewal soon, I won't be switching to metered billing. Shame I could use the metered billing facility for testing things.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:26 pm 
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obs wrote:
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It will certainly offer a strong incentive to existing customers not to convert their accounts, anyway.


Indeed I'm due for a 2 yearly renewal soon, I won't be switching to metered billing. Shame I could use the metered billing facility for testing things.


So pre-pay on one account for the discount and setup a second account for testing things.

Metered billing is great for testing things.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:46 pm 
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caker wrote:
Everything is metered. Linodes, backups, NodeBalancers, Longview Pro, Managed, etc.

caker wrote:
...it's calculated based on its existence.


So, to be clear, based on these two quotes (from different posts):

You'd get billed the hourly rate as long as a linode *exists* (consuming space on disk) regardless of if it's booted or not, correct?

My 2 cents:
I love linode, and have zero intention of leaving. But I've got 8 months of prepaid left and see no reason to switch to metered at all. I do feel it's a price increase with the removal of the pre-paid discounts, but I'd honestly just pay it if the price did increase: I'm that pleased with linode.

Now, I do occasionally need to spin up a machine but don't feel like paying the full price just to have it sit around off, so I use local VMs, which is inconvenient...if I could build that machine and leave it off but built at a discounted price (maybe just a powered off/storage only max per month less than the full "on" price?) I'd be thrilled.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:09 pm 
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You'd get billed the hourly rate as long as a linode *exists* (consuming space on disk) regardless of if it's booted or not, correct?

Correct.

Thanks for your business :)

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xoff00 wrote:
Now, I do occasionally need to spin up a machine but don't feel like paying the full price just to have it sit around off, so I use local VMs, which is inconvenient...if I could build that machine and leave it off but built at a discounted price (maybe just a powered off/storage only max per month less than the full "on" price?) I'd be thrilled.

Yeah, some sort of separate network storage or backup images would be useful for that.

In the meantime, you might be able to write a StackScript to bootstrap your system, or set it up, resize the image down to a couple GB, and save it on one of your permanent nodes.

Edit: caker, you would be okay with users maintaining two accounts, so one can have old-fashioned-annual-discount billing and one can have metered billing?

Edit (T+18 minutes): I didn't mean to rub the ever-requested feature, storage, in Linode's face in the middle of the announcement of a different oft-requested new feature. I was just trying to help xoff00.

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caker, you would be okay with users maintaining two accounts, so one can have old-fashioned-annual-discount billing and one can have metered billing?

Of course. That's totally fine with us.

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It would be good if both types of linodes could co-exist in one account. Perhaps new linodes would be metered by default, while you could convert linodes (once created) into long-term billing. You know, set a flag on that linode that changes how its billed.


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Great, now I'm trying to think of a reason to spin up a linode 40960 for an hour or two at $1.20/hr.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:24 am 
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They could use the metered billing with a pre charge option with a discount grade.
Something like:

- $200 : 5%
- $500 : 10%
- $1000 : 15%


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:31 am 
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Bummer. So for me "Metered Billing" is simply a 15% price increase in disguise.


Actually, it's a 17.6% increase.

Just sayin'.

Let's say you pay $100. You get a 15% decrease. 15% of $100 is $15, so you're paying $100-$15=$85.

But $15 is 17.6% of $85, so going from $85 to $100 is a 17.6% increase.


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BerenErchamion wrote:
Actually, it's a 17.6% increase.


Only if you convert the account you have your pre-paid stuff on, which you don't have to. You can create a second account with hourly billing. Caker said that was fine.

No doubt something similar to pre-payment discounts will turn up before new customers are put onto hourly plans.


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It saves me money because I have less accounting to do and because I only pay for an hours usage if I need an extra Linode for an hour - not a days.

That being said, discounts are always nice ;)

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