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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:16 am 
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jed wrote:
Right side of the login page.


Man, I am stupid.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:19 am 
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ericholtman wrote:
jed wrote:
Right side of the login page.


Man, I am stupid.

Nah, your eyes were just trained to not look there.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:22 am 
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rsk wrote:
Things that I feel really, really should be back is displaying the physical host ID in list of nodes and the dashboard (generally, what was in the Host Summary widget in old manager).


I really liked seeing that in the old version... how much of one host cpu you were using, plus how loaded your host server was.

Sigh.

And, I really liked the smaller fonts and layout of the older version: more info per page is better.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:30 pm 
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I'd like to chime in with my own thoughts.

At first glance I liked the old look better. But I suppose that is because I got used to the old panel (you know, inertia to change). As I use the beta panel more and more, here's what I think:

PROS:

+ bigger graphs and cute graph history
+ cleaner host jobs list
+ advanced profile config is separate page
+ console and network tabs combined into Remote Access
+ display groups !!


CONS:

- dashed border of bandwidth pool bar
- no bandwidth bars for individual nodes (regardless of the pooling, methinks having quick info about individual node BW usage is a must)
- no host load data
- no cpu time used
- node profile selection is dropdown instead of having them all shown with Boot Into (or Reboot for current) buttons.
- inactive Linodes tabs (Dashboard, Remote, ...) should be more clearly separated
- oh gawd please get rid of that fluorescent green! Oh, my eyes! :)

$0.02


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:08 pm 
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more cow bell!

But seriously I think I know why I like the older interface better.

1) I'm use to it

2) There's more contrast so it's just plain easier to read. Grey text on grey or white background = BAD

The thin blue text for the links is also hard on my eye, make it bold or some other color, or both

3) Smaller text so I can see more on the screen

4) In the dashboard, I really do miss the status panel on the right. I would love one place where I can view at a glance what's going on. I don't want to have to scroll or view multiple screens.

Oh and the neon green text when logging in is just horrible.

5) The light grey text on the grey background at the bottom of the dashboard = REALLY BAD. Is there something there you're trying to hide?

So instead of more cow bell, more contrast please (black on white or black on grey and bold text PLEASE).

I don't know if you've done changes in the last few days based on feedback or if I'm getting use to it, but things do look a little better than when I first logged into the beta version about a week or so ago.

But it's still hurting my eyes.

Things are looking better, and I like some of the direction it's going but right now the old manager is just so much more comfortable to look at.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:56 pm 
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There's also some inconsistent terminology. In the dashboard, you can select disk images to copy. On the surface to me I thought that meant I could make a copy of a disk image. Instead it takes me to a screen about cloning the image to another Linode either locally or in another DC from the looks of the screen.

Same for the profiles.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:21 pm 
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ericholtman wrote:
I really liked seeing that in the old version... how much of one host cpu you were using, plus how loaded your host server was.


If it makes you feel better, the host-load bar graph has been irrelevant for a number of years now.

Also, the % average CPU is available on the Graphs tab; the first graph in the default view (last 30 days) effectively has that number.

p.s. has anyone mentioned the Rescue tab yet? ;-)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:40 pm 
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Hi,

- I have to agree with the font issue. From the login page, through to all the tabs, the fonts are just so big and in your face, I feel like moving my chair further away from my desk just to compensate. Yuck yuck yuck.

- The bandwidth bar is the ugliest thing I have seen in a long time. Remove the dotted line and make it sleeker (and smaller).

- The graphs suffer from the same "in your face" problem as the fonts. While I'm on the graphs, rather add a 7-day view for the graphs (something that's been outstanding for a really, really long time).

- Suddenly my 22" screen feels used up, I have to scroll around more to get an overview of what's going on - especially when viewing the graphs.

- I don't have more than one Linode, but I would certainly want to see each Linode's usage separately from the other to judge traffic usage.

- I'd like to see the "My Profile" link moved to one of the main tabs - it just gets lots on the far right, top of the screen.

- The new manager seems almost bland ... like it needs a bit of salt & pepper. Lack of borders and too many places where there is not enough contrast between the text and the background (eg. grey text). Even the alternating column shading has gone missing. It seems hazy and devoid of function and detail - maybe it's because everything is so spread out and overly large.

On the whole, I hope we have the option to rather use the older manager as an option when they take the new manager live. I don't see any advantage in the new interface, only disadvantage.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:21 pm 
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I just took a quick look; it's mostly easy to navigate (took a while to find the current whitelist) and is an improvement over the previous version in that respect. But it's fugly. The sort of thing my websites would look like :-)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:15 am 
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On a completely unrelated note, I just took a look at the graphs page and realized I've been here for almost a year now. Time flies.

On topic, and I apologize in advance that there is absolutely nothing constructive about this pov from a technical standpoint; I absolutely hate that bright green splashed across the top. I realize it's the green from your logo, but I think the whole effect would come across a lot less kool-aid if that was taken down a few notches.

When I'm using the control panel, I have something to do. I want to get it done, and I just keep staring at that green.

I think it just blinked.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:49 am 
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Since everyone else is adding their £0.02 I thought I'd join in.

Personally I don't give a monkey's doodar what the layout is.

However I do beleive that if there's to be a new manager then new features should be added not taken away i.e. the host usage, individual bandwidth graphs etc

Apart from that it's fine.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:38 am 
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i don't see much functionality changing, so why not just run the CSS ruler over the current manager to freshen up the look?

Also, I wouldn't have REBUILD as a front line menu option, this should be nested away to stop particularly stupid people like me from using it..


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:53 am 
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For the Host Job Queue, the 'Show more Jobs' feature has disappeared. Please bring it back.

+1 for losing the dotted line round the bars for bandwidth, disk usage. It serves no purpose and it's fugly.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:24 am 
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I'd be interested in seeing a return of the "Last Generated" in the DNS Manager.

Also, while it isn't a work of graphic beauty, I don't mind the new bandwidth bar. If I were looking for pretty pictures, I'd go to an art show. I can clearly see % used, % available, raw used, raw total, raw remaining, and total.

Function > Form. (imho)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:25 am 
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Why is it companies insist on changing perfectly good application interfaces that everyone has become used to, and can use with their eyes closed, for something, err, "better".
MS Office is the perfect example. The interface was relatively unchanged till 2007, after which you couldn't find a dammed thing. It hasn't been more productive for me, or most other people in our office.
Change for change sake. Yeah, that's what we need nore of.


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