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 Post subject: IPv6
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:40 pm 
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I've been looking into IPv6 recently and came across this great guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ipv6.xml.The thing to note is this page references http://tunnelbroker.net/index.php as a free IPv6 tunnel broker. This is where it gets interesting, tunnelbroker.net is run by Huricane Electric which has http://ipv6.he.net/ this page about IPv6 at HE.

I know someone asked about IPv6 previously in this thread, http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=323. I'm wondering if it would be possible to use IPv6 without mucking with the tunneling at all. It would be a nifty feature to make an already extremely geek friendy provider just that bit more attractive.

Chris, anyway you could check into this with HE?

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 Post subject: IPV6
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:56 am 
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Although I know next to nothing about IPv6, I am also interested in learning more about it, and would love it if Linode supported it.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:01 am 
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It certainly would be possible for you to setup IPV6 without native support using tunneling. Have a look at that Gentoo howto. It's pretty simple and most of it applies to distributions other then just Gentoo. If you are interested in doing this and it turns out we can't use native IPV6 I would be happy to help you out if you have problems, on or off the list. That is what open source is all about ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:20 pm 
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Just thought I'd let people know so you don't think Chris doesn't care or what not...

Spoke to Chris on IRC about this, he is looking into it. Just a matter of time before we know one way or the other.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:31 pm 
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Based on the response I received from HE Support, their IPv6 network is on a different set of wires than the rest. HE informed me that I would need a different uplink and then referred me to my sales rep (I'm guessing because they want to charge for it).

I haven't heard back from her (probably Monday), but I'm thinking the best route would be for people to just get tunnels...

-Chris


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It would make sense them been on a different set of wires. IPv4 and IPv6 can not co-exist on the same network, without a lot of problem been created.

It will still take 5 years for IPv6 to become standard as it requires all operating systems, routers, bridges even IP phones to be upgraded to support IPv6.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:31 am 
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There's really no reason why IPv6 and IPv4 can't exist on the same physical network, since IP is "Layer 3" according to ISO's OSI model. They're going to have to if IPv6 is to take over :-)

And besides, it's all just layer 2 frames to the switching equipment. Routers are a different story, I guess, since they muck in Layer 3 (network) land.

I'll get the scoop on Monday from our rep @ HE.

-Chris


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:28 pm 
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So, what happened? Is there a way to get a pipe of IPv6 in? If not, any chance you'd run a tunnel endpoint/radvd on a linode at the HE site? I guess if you've fixed the Linode-Linode packet accounting, you'd have to except that back out.

It'd be great to have "native" IPv6, in any case. I already have a tunnel, and, let me say, it's really nice to have an IPv6 host "out there" to test stuff against.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:34 pm 
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I heard back from HE. Essentially, they've kept IPv6 off their core network while they're testing everything. They said they would be combining the two networks "real soon now", but if we wanted to get onto the IPv6 network they'd have to charge for an additional network drop (per month) into that network. What they want to charge doesn't seem worth it at this point.

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