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 Post subject: Randomness
PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:23 pm 
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Do any of the [Xe|Li]node boxes have Intel/AMD/VIA HW Random Number Generator on em? And if so, could that option get compiled into the kernel?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:54 pm 
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That would be nice...

But not installed in all linodes.

It would be great if Linode.com could run a random number generator service, perhaps a small special Linode with a Hardware Random Number Generator on site, in your server vault generating a large pool of random bits, which Linodes could draw off of with SSH inside the building...

...next most secure thing to having your own HRNG in the Linode, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Randomness
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:07 pm 
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Do any of the [Xe|Li]node boxes have Intel/AMD/VIA HW Random Number Generator on em? And if so, could that option get compiled into the kernel?
They do not, however -- starting with 2.6.12, UML has a feature to get randomness from the host. Check here:

http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7949#7949

-Chris


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:05 pm 
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If you are encrypting, you might be interested in:

http://www.newscientistspace.com/articl ... pace_rss20

The researchers believe quasars could make an ideal cryptographic tool because the strength and frequency of the radio pulses they emit is impossible to predict. "Quasar-based cryptography is based on a physical fact that such a space signal is random and has a very broad frequency spectrum"


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:54 am 
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Cancel that order for a hardware RNG - buy a radio telescope instead.

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 Post subject: Re: Randomness
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:03 am 
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Do any of the [Xe|Li]node boxes have Intel/AMD/VIA HW Random Number Generator on em? And if so, could that option get compiled into the kernel?
They do not, however -- starting with 2.6.12, UML has a feature to get randomness from the host. Check here:

http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7949#7949

-Chris
I tried this with 2.6.15-linode16, but rngd aborts with:
Code:
can't open /dev/hwrandom: No such file or directory
Do I need to create /dev/hwrandom myself?


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